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Were the Founding Fathers Really Christians?
by Wes Penre, Feb 22, 2006
(Posted here by Wes Penre: Feb 22, 2006)
 

Wes Penre, 2005Let's think about it. We know that Freemasonry is an Illuminati organization, and most of the Founding Fathers were Freemasons. Still, Christian researchers into the New World Order, and many non-Christians as well, are stubbornly calling the United States a Christian Nation, based upon Christian values. This never made sense to me. We know that you cannot be a Christian and a Freemason at the same time, so why are so many people sticking their heads in the sand, glorifying the Founding Fathers for their Christian beliefs?

When I bring this issue up with Christian researchers, I get vague answers that do not make sense, and then the ball is dropped. So, let us look into this for a while by citing some quotes, and you'll make up your own mind:


The Founding Fathers
 

The USA is a Christian Nation/State

"Because of the religious beliefs of the founding fathers, shouldn't the United States be considered a Christian nation?"

Based upon the writings of several important founding fathers, it is clear that they never intended the US to be a Christian nation. Here are some quotes; there are more in a companion document.

"What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not."
[James Madison, "A Memorial and Remonstrance", 1785.]

"I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved -- the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!"
[John Adams, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson.]


"History I believe furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance, of which their political as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purpose."
[Thomas Jefferson to Baron von Humboldt, 1813.]


"I cannot conceive otherwise than that He, the Infinite Father, expects or requires no worship or praise from us, but that He is even infinitely above it."
[Benjamin Franklin, from "Articles of Belief and Acts of Religion", Nov. 20, 1728.]


"Is it true that George Washington said that the United States is not in any sense founded upon the Christian religion?"

No. The quotation often given is in fact from Article XI of the Treaty of Tripoli (8 Stat 154, Treaty Series 358):

Article 11

As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, -- as it has in itself no character or enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen, -- and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

The text may be found in the Congressional Record or in treaty collections such as Charles I. Bevans' "Treaties and Other International Agreements of the United States of America 1776-1949", vol. 11 (pp. 1070-1080).
 

The Treaty of Tripoli was signed in Tripoli on November 4th, 1796. The English text of the treaty was approved by the U.S. Senate on June 7, 1797 and ratified by President John Adams on June 10, 1797. It was recently discovered that the US copy of the Arabic version of the treaty not only lacks the quotation, it lacks Article XI altogether. Instead it seems to contain the text of a letter to the Pasha of Tripoli from the Dey of Algiers.

The person who translated the Arabic to English was Joel Barlow, Consul General at Algiers, a close friend of Thomas Paine -- and an opponent of Christianity. It is possible that Barlow made up Article XI, but since there is no Arabic version of that article to be found, it's hard to say. It seems unlikely, however.

In 1806 a new Treaty of Tripoli was ratified which no longer contained the quotation. The 1815 Treaty With Algiers contains a similar article, but does not state that the US government is not founded on religion, only that it is not incompatible with any religion.

Ignoring the question of the wording of the Arabic version of the 1796 Treaty of Tripoli, we can conclude that the wording of the English article XI fairly represents the opinion of the time, as it was passed and approved by both the US Senate and the President.


References:

http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/arguments.html#usais
http://www.infidels.org/news/atheism/arguments.html#usanot

America's Secret Destiny (
A two hour [video] lecture about the role of secret societies in the founding of America)

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